Tuesday, September 25, 2007

Experienced Mainstreamed Problems

I want to respect Gnarlydork by sharing my own experiences with struggling to get my Deaf son to get top qualified level 5 educational interpreter in mainstream for tooo long time WHILE I'm a FULL TIME WORKING MOM! But seems ADA and IDEA laws are VERY WEAK SYSTEMS for the Deaf Education!

I may be so STOOOOPID about Deaf History... I may be WRONG if that Deaf mainstreamed started in 1970's.. I am not sure because I do not have much time to take Deaf Studies while I am a full time working mom with my 2 boys..

I already know that IDEA and ADA laws are still very weak systems.. Including my Deaf and 1/2 blind husband and I are still full time working parents that we do feel so much pressures from the hearing workers on our work floor. Seems that the ADA law do not have good systems on our work floor, too!!! We do still feel oppressed from our work floor but we managed go to work and then go home. We feel that we are suffered to pay our Federal taxes and seem wasted our time with the ADA law systems that are STILL WEAK SYSTEMS!

I did had my own experience with 4 hours of battle war in my Deaf son's IEP meeting before go to work. My Deaf and 1/2 blind husband was stuck at work and couldn't go IEP meeting! I was ALONE and got suffered with my BIG HEADACHE to go work on that night!! I was WORN OUT from the 4 hours war in IEP Meeting!! Plus my Deaf and 1/2 blind husband and I grew up from lack of education from Oral Deaf school here, too! That's why we prefer to have our Deaf son to get far better Deaf education than ours while we already experienced isolated in our mainstreamed high school without educational interpreter provided before the 1990's ADA law passed!!!

Thank you, Gnarlydork for your own express from your feelings! Hope you will feel a lot better asap.. Hope you that you will understand our situation problems.. Don't give up yourself, Gnarlydork!! I better go get busy myself. Smile, Shawn


Misha said...

I haven't seen what was going on with gnarly issue.
I agree with you on that kind of issues on the mainstream schools. In our town, there was one mainstream school where my coda kids attended in the past. But unfortunately, they stopped transporting the deaf kids who live out of our town due to budget cuts. I'm not sure if they still have the deaf local kids in that school yet. But the teachers and interpreters don't ever sign very good at all, NONE at all! I had the parent and teacher conferences with that teachers or interpreters (only one who was very good one but had since quit shortly after my last kid enrolled). I had been struggling to understand their stiff and weird signs...sometimes slow. It was so painful that I ended up telling them to talk with signs so I could read their lips. It was so horrible experience.
I believe all teachers and interpreters should be the certified ASL educator/interpreter. But so far I know, they are NOT...unless I'm mistaken.


ASL Risen said...

Hello Misha!

Wow, thanks for sharing your comment about mainstream schools.. Oh yeah here's copied and pasted from Gnarly's wonderful video link:


click on "ASL and Mainstreamed--MYTH??" Hope that will work out for you to watch her feelings on her video clip. Thanks again. Shawn

Misha said...

Thanks for the link. Wow, I couldn't believe they have some nerve to insult gnarlydork! She got lucky with the great interpreters and teachers in her mainstream school. Very lucky and perhaps rare.

Thanks again.


ASL Risen said...


Yes I agreed with you!! Shawn

Anonymous said...

Yes, Mainstream Schools started in 1970 after deaf girl of mother who won a case that she had a right to put her daughter in mainstream instead of Deaf School. that's how it spread over in USA of course it hurt Deaf Schools get small number of deaf. One thing that I wanted to share with you that after her daughter graduated from the mainstream. Guess what Mother felt sorry and made mistake because her daughter didn't really have social life after graduated. Mother wished her daughter went to Deaf School instead of it. Oh well..

ASL Risen said...


Really?? Wow thanks for letting me know!


Anonymous said...

I recently took my EIPA (Educational Interpreter's Performance Assesment). That is a test for interpreters who interpret in K-12 schools. You should require that your son's interpreter take that test.

RID has an Ed: K-12 certificate. If you pass the performance EIPA with a 4.0 or above, then you can join RID as a certified member. The test is on a 5 point scale, so the maximum score is a 5.

I recently read an article that did a study of almost 2,100 educational interpreters that did take the EIPA. Only 17% of them passed with a 4.0 or above. That means that, according to RID, only 17% of those people are MINIMALLY qualified to interpret in schools. It leaves 83% of interpreters who are not qualified to interpret in schools, but are still interpreting for deaf students.

Please make sure that your son has an interpreter who has an EIPA 4.0 or above. Anything less is unacceptable. You might have a hard time finding a EIPA 5, because I think those are pretty rare. They should be somewhere in the 4.0-5.0 range.

Anything under 4.0 is unacceptable. It is a very fair test. Anyone scoring under 4.0 should not be allowed to work with deaf children.

Hope this helps.